1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,200 BERNIE SANDERS: When I go on Fox, what I will say 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,440 is, look, many of you voted for Donald Trump. 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:05,240 But he lied to you. 4 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,572 [MUSIC PLAYING] 5 00:00:08,572 --> 00:00:09,920 6 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,220 AMANDA TERKEL: I know you said that you 7 00:00:11,220 --> 00:00:13,140 distinguish between the Fox News viewers 8 00:00:13,140 --> 00:00:14,280 and the network itself-- BERNIE SANDERS: Yeah. 9 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,380 AMANDA TERKEL: --but do you worry 10 00:00:15,380 --> 00:00:18,070 that you're giving a network that propagates Islamophobia, 11 00:00:18,070 --> 00:00:19,260 climate-- BERNIE SANDERS: Believe me. 12 00:00:19,260 --> 00:00:20,990 I know all-- you have to tell me about Fox News. 13 00:00:20,990 --> 00:00:21,660 I know all about Fox News. 14 00:00:21,660 --> 00:00:22,410 AMANDA TERKEL: Are you worried that you're 15 00:00:22,410 --> 00:00:23,820 giving the network legitimacy? 16 00:00:23,820 --> 00:00:25,290 BERNIE SANDERS: For better or for worse-- 17 00:00:25,290 --> 00:00:27,600 and it is for worse-- for whatever reason, 18 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,750 Fox has a huge viewing audience. 19 00:00:29,750 --> 00:00:31,290 And to simply say that we are not 20 00:00:31,290 --> 00:00:37,140 going to talk to millions of people who watch that network, 21 00:00:37,140 --> 00:00:38,340 I don't think is smart. 22 00:00:38,340 --> 00:00:41,490 When I go on Fox, what I will say is, look, many of you 23 00:00:41,490 --> 00:00:42,690 voted for Donald Trump. 24 00:00:42,690 --> 00:00:44,010 But he lied to you. 25 00:00:44,010 --> 00:00:45,690 He told you he was going to provide health care 26 00:00:45,690 --> 00:00:47,910 for everybody, yet his policies are 27 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:49,920 to throw 30 million people off of the health 28 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,330 insurance they have. 29 00:00:51,330 --> 00:00:53,730 He told you he wasn't going to cut Medicare and Medicaid. 30 00:00:53,730 --> 00:00:54,540 He lied to you. 31 00:00:54,540 --> 00:00:56,650 Massive cuts in his budget for Medicare and Medicaid. 32 00:00:56,650 --> 00:00:57,750 We're not going to let him do it, 33 00:00:57,750 --> 00:00:59,400 but that's what he wants to do. 34 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,230 Told you his tax plan would not benefit the wealthy. 35 00:01:02,230 --> 00:01:03,330 He lied again, of course. 36 00:01:03,330 --> 00:01:05,760 83% of the benefits go to the top 1%. 37 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,960 How do you explain that the people 38 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:08,650 who voted for Trump if you don't talk 39 00:01:08,650 --> 00:01:10,200 to people who voted for Trump? 40 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,220 But it's not just Fox. 41 00:01:11,220 --> 00:01:13,380 If you check where I go, and where 42 00:01:13,380 --> 00:01:15,500 I will go into this campaign, I'm not just going 43 00:01:15,500 --> 00:01:17,450 to go into blue districts. 44 00:01:17,450 --> 00:01:21,300 You've got to go into areas where people are. 45 00:01:21,300 --> 00:01:23,560 Working people need to know the truth, 46 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,740 and that is that Donald Trump betrayed them. 47 00:01:25,740 --> 00:01:26,750 Lied to them. 48 00:01:26,750 --> 00:01:27,720 And I intend to do that. 49 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,153 AMANDA TERKEL: Do you think, at this point, 50 00:01:29,153 --> 00:01:31,740 Fox News is a propaganda arm for the Trump administration? 51 00:01:31,740 --> 00:01:34,080 BERNIE SANDERS: In most respects, I think it is. 52 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,210 You have some people on there who, I think, are serious. 53 00:01:36,210 --> 00:01:43,260 I did-- in 2016, I think it was, a town hall with Bret Baier. 54 00:01:43,260 --> 00:01:45,640 We were very nervous about it. 55 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,640 We went over the ground rules. 56 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,690 He kept his word, and it was a fair town hall. 57 00:01:48,690 --> 00:01:52,020 So I think they have some people who you could describe 58 00:01:52,020 --> 00:01:55,820 as real journalists, but, obviously, most of that, 59 00:01:55,820 --> 00:01:57,330 I think, is-- most of the station 60 00:01:57,330 --> 00:02:00,200 is right wing propaganda. 61 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,474