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AMANDA TERKEL: You did an
interview with Chris Hayes

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recently, and he asked you
about the Democratic House Bill

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to shore up the
Affordable Care Act.

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And you said you're
not a fan of that

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because you support Medicare
for all and single payer.

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So if it came up in the Senate,
would you not vote against it?

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BERNIE SANDERS: It's not going
to come up in the Senate.

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See, that's the point.

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Here is the issue.

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I think ultimately
as a nation, we

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have got to conclude,
what I believe is true,

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is that the current
health care system is

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dysfunctional in the sense that
we are spending twice as much

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per capita on health care as do
the people of any other nation.

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And you got 30 million
people uninsured.

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More than that, under insured.

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We pay the highest prices in the
world for prescription drugs,

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and our health care outcomes
in terms of life expectancy

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well how we treat many
diseases is not as

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good as many other countries.

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The function of this
health care system

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is to make huge profits
for the insurance companies

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and the drug companies.

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That's got to end.

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And we need a health
care system based

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on guaranteeing health
care to all as a right,

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in a cost effective way.

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That's Medicare for all.

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So to answer your question
in that legislation,

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if good legislation is
passed in the House,

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it ain't going to
come to the Senate.

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Mitch McConnell is not
going to take it up.

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So my job right now is to
keep this country focused

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on the real solution,
which is that you

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have Medicare right now.

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Works well for seniors.

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We need to improve
it for seniors.

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We need to expand
that for everybody.

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AMANDA TERKEL: So do
you think that Democrats

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shouldn't-- in Congress--
shouldn't be spending time

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strengthening Obamacare
because the system

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is just too dysfunctional?

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BERNIE SANDERS: I think the
focus really has got to be,

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and I think most
Democrats believe that,

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and many Republicans as well.

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It is not complicated.

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Is health care a human
right for all Americans?

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I think yes.

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How do you provide
health care to all people

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in a cost effective way?

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Right now, the system
is so wasteful,

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we waste hundreds of hundreds
of billions of dollars

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in administration,
in profiteering

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from the drug companies and
the insurance companies.

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Outrageous
compensation packages.

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That's not what
health care is about.

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It should be quality
care for all people

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in a cost effective way.

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That's Medicare for all.

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AMANDA TERKEL: And
are you willing

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to finance Medicare for
all for deficit spending

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or do you think it needs
to pay for itself entirely?

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BERNIE SANDERS: We'll
take a look at that,

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but it will be financed
through progressive taxation.

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And one of the things
certainly that will happen

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is you're going to
turn on your TV soon,

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you see these 30 second ads.

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Bernie Sanders
wants to raise all

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your tax and all that stuff.

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But what they will
forget to tell

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you is that you
and your employer

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will no longer be paying any
health insurance premium.

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You're not going to
have any deductible,

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you're not going to
have any co-payment,

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and you're going to
have access to more

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benefits, more services, more
care than you have right now.

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Under our plan, the
average American

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will be paying significantly
less for health care

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than he or she is
paying right now.

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