1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 2 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,800 MAXINE WATERS: This is a new way, and it's a new day, 3 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,090 and it's a new chair, and I have the gavel at this point. 4 00:00:06,090 --> 00:00:09,970 5 00:00:09,970 --> 00:00:13,170 I think what I thought I originally heard 6 00:00:13,170 --> 00:00:15,870 was 5:30 rather than 5:15. 7 00:00:15,870 --> 00:00:18,420 So is it possible you can give us another 15 minutes 8 00:00:18,420 --> 00:00:19,360 to get to these members? 9 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,060 STEVEN MNUCHIN: No, I have a foreign leader waiting 10 00:00:21,060 --> 00:00:23,670 in my office at 5:30, OK. 11 00:00:23,670 --> 00:00:26,550 I agreed to stay longer. 12 00:00:26,550 --> 00:00:29,340 It will be embarrassing if I keep this person waiting 13 00:00:29,340 --> 00:00:30,240 for a long period of time. 14 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:31,560 I wasn't going to have a press conference. 15 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,970 I was going to have a short press gaggle. 16 00:00:32,970 --> 00:00:34,380 I'm not going to do that. 17 00:00:34,380 --> 00:00:37,770 And I've assured you, I'm happy to come back here and answer 18 00:00:37,770 --> 00:00:38,850 more of your questions. 19 00:00:38,850 --> 00:00:42,030 I respect the committee, and we want to have a good working 20 00:00:42,030 --> 00:00:43,080 relationship with you. 21 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,660 So I hope you'll understand I'm already going 22 00:00:45,660 --> 00:00:47,880 to be late to my 5:30 meeting. 23 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,590 MAXINE WATERS: I do understand. 24 00:00:49,590 --> 00:00:51,570 We are late on the time, unfortunately. 25 00:00:51,570 --> 00:00:55,240 We are all pressed for time, and I do get it. 26 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:01,920 However, I think I indicated early on that we would request 27 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,069 or require that you come back at least two 28 00:01:05,069 --> 00:01:08,220 more times in the month of May. 29 00:01:08,220 --> 00:01:09,810 Is that something you're agreeing to? 30 00:01:09,810 --> 00:01:11,850 STEVEN MNUCHIN: No, Madam Chair, I find this to be-- you 31 00:01:11,850 --> 00:01:15,220 know, I have here every single time Jack Lew and other people 32 00:01:15,220 --> 00:01:16,020 came here. 33 00:01:16,020 --> 00:01:18,000 There's never been anybody that's been here more 34 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,410 than 3 hours and 15 minutes. 35 00:01:20,410 --> 00:01:23,220 I've sat here for over 3 hours and 15 minutes. 36 00:01:23,220 --> 00:01:24,790 I've told you I'll come back. 37 00:01:24,790 --> 00:01:26,670 I just don't believe we're sitting here 38 00:01:26,670 --> 00:01:28,390 negotiating when I come back. 39 00:01:28,390 --> 00:01:30,090 We'll follow up with your office. 40 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:32,490 How long would you like me to come back for next time? 41 00:01:32,490 --> 00:01:34,320 I've told you I'll accommodate you. 42 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:35,670 MAXINE WATERS: I appreciate that, 43 00:01:35,670 --> 00:01:38,490 and I appreciate your reminding us 44 00:01:38,490 --> 00:01:41,550 of the length of time other secretaries have been here. 45 00:01:41,550 --> 00:01:45,570 This is a new way, and it's a new day, and it's a new chair, 46 00:01:45,570 --> 00:01:47,820 and I have the gavel at this point. 47 00:01:47,820 --> 00:01:49,200 If you wish to leave, you may. 48 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,270 49 00:01:52,270 --> 00:01:54,190 STEVEN MNUCHIN: Can you clarify that for me? 50 00:01:54,190 --> 00:01:55,700 MAXINE WATERS: Yes, clarify. 51 00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:56,500 Is this-- 52 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:57,300 STEVEN MNUCHIN: So-- 53 00:01:57,300 --> 00:01:59,020 MAXINE WATERS: If you wish to leave, you may. 54 00:01:59,020 --> 00:02:00,970 STEVEN MNUCHIN: OK, so we're dismissed. 55 00:02:00,970 --> 00:02:02,410 Is that correct? 56 00:02:02,410 --> 00:02:05,740 MAXINE WATERS: If you wish to leave, you may leave. 57 00:02:05,740 --> 00:02:07,540 STEVEN MNUCHIN: I don't understand what you're saying. 58 00:02:07,540 --> 00:02:09,100 MAXINE WATERS: You're wasting your time. 59 00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:14,320 Remember, you have a foreign dignitary in your office. 60 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,770 STEVEN MNUCHIN: I would just say that the previous admin-- 61 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:18,170 previous-- when the Republicans-- 62 00:02:18,170 --> 00:02:21,360 they did not treat the secretary of the treasury this way. 63 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,840 So if this is the way you want to treat me, 64 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,060 then I'll rethink whether I voluntarily 65 00:02:26,060 --> 00:02:31,580 come back here to testify, which I've offered to do. 66 00:02:31,580 --> 00:02:33,080 MAXINE WATERS: Mr. Secretary, I want 67 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,340 you to know that no other secretary has ever told us 68 00:02:37,340 --> 00:02:42,260 the day before that they were going to limit their time 69 00:02:42,260 --> 00:02:43,920 in the way that you're doing. 70 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:46,700 So if you want to use them as examples, 71 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:50,450 you have acted differently than they have acted. 72 00:02:50,450 --> 00:02:53,210 And as I have said, if you wish to leave, you may. 73 00:02:53,210 --> 00:02:56,000 74 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,700 STEVEN MNUCHIN: If you'd wish to keep me here so that I don't 75 00:02:58,700 --> 00:03:02,420 have my important meeting and continue to grill me, 76 00:03:02,420 --> 00:03:03,540 then we can do that. 77 00:03:03,540 --> 00:03:06,020 I will cancel my meeting, and I will not be back here. 78 00:03:06,020 --> 00:03:07,760 I will be very clear if that's the way you'd 79 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,650 like to have this relationship. 80 00:03:09,650 --> 00:03:10,780 MAXINE WATERS: Thank you. 81 00:03:10,780 --> 00:03:13,880 The gentleman, the secretary has agreed to stay to hear 82 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,140 all of the rest of the members. 83 00:03:15,140 --> 00:03:15,940 Please cancel-- 84 00:03:15,940 --> 00:03:16,100 STEVEN MNUCHIN: OK, so just let's be clear to the press-- 85 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:18,740 MAXINE WATERS: --your meeting and respect our time. 86 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:19,643 Who is next on the list? 87 00:03:19,643 --> 00:03:21,410 STEVEN MNUCHIN: --I am cancelling my foreign meeting. 88 00:03:21,410 --> 00:03:23,870 You're instructing me to stay here, and I should cancel. 89 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:25,670 MAXINE WATERS: No, you just made me an offer. 90 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:26,530 STEVEN MNUCHIN: No, I didn't make you an offer. 91 00:03:26,530 --> 00:03:28,340 MAXINE WATERS: You made me an offer that I accepted. 92 00:03:28,340 --> 00:03:29,990 STEVEN MNUCHIN: I did not make an offer. 93 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:31,250 Just let's be clear. MAXINE WATERS: Well-- 94 00:03:31,250 --> 00:03:32,517 STEVEN MNUCHIN: You're instructing me. 95 00:03:32,517 --> 00:03:34,670 You are ordering me to stay here. 96 00:03:34,670 --> 00:03:36,440 MAXINE WATERS: No, I'm not ordering you. 97 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,520 I'm responding. 98 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,010 I said you may leave any time you want. 99 00:03:40,010 --> 00:03:41,910 And you said, OK. 100 00:03:41,910 --> 00:03:45,110 If that's what you want to do, I'll cancel my appointment 101 00:03:45,110 --> 00:03:46,310 and I'll stay here. 102 00:03:46,310 --> 00:03:48,470 So I'm responding to your request. 103 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:50,010 If that's what you want to do-- 104 00:03:50,010 --> 00:03:50,870 STEVEN MNUCHIN: That's not what I want to do. 105 00:03:50,870 --> 00:03:51,480 I told you-- 106 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:52,760 MAXINE WATERS: What would you like to do? 107 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,893 STEVEN MNUCHIN: What I've told you 108 00:03:53,893 --> 00:03:56,137 is I thought it was respectful that you'd let me leave 109 00:03:56,137 --> 00:03:57,170 at 5:15, which is the current-- 110 00:03:57,170 --> 00:03:59,150 MAXINE WATERS: You are free to leave anytime you want. 111 00:03:59,150 --> 00:03:59,820 STEVEN MNUCHIN: --period of time. 112 00:03:59,820 --> 00:04:00,210 MAXINE WATERS: You may go-- 113 00:04:00,210 --> 00:04:00,800 STEVEN MNUCHIN: OK, well then please-- 114 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,170 MAXINE WATERS: --any time you want. 115 00:04:02,170 --> 00:04:03,830 STEVEN MNUCHIN: Please dismiss everybody. 116 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:06,190 I believe you're supposed take the gravel and bang it. 117 00:04:06,190 --> 00:04:06,400 That's the appropriate. 118 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,070 MAXINE WATERS: Please do not instruct me as to how 119 00:04:08,070 --> 00:04:09,925 I am to conduct this committee. 120 00:04:09,925 --> 00:04:12,437 121 00:04:12,437 --> 00:04:15,730 Please, gentlelady, the time belongs to the chair. 122 00:04:15,730 --> 00:04:19,180 123 00:04:19,180 --> 00:04:21,410 Who's next? 124 00:04:21,410 --> 00:04:23,510 The gentlewoman from Pennsylvania, Ms. Dean, 125 00:04:23,510 --> 00:04:26,110 is recognized for five minutes. 126 00:04:26,110 --> 00:04:30,059