WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.050 align:middle line:90% 00:00:00.050 --> 00:00:01.817 align:middle line:84% RICKY CAMILLERI: And to have to grapple with the idea 00:00:01.817 --> 00:00:06.330 align:middle line:84% that while you're searching for your missing child, the news-- 00:00:06.330 --> 00:00:09.540 align:middle line:84% the police are not just telling you that you don't matter, 00:00:09.540 --> 00:00:11.850 align:middle line:84% but they're telling you that they're not an innocent-- 00:00:11.850 --> 00:00:12.430 align:middle line:84% MIRIAM SHOR: Oh no, they're complicit. 00:00:12.430 --> 00:00:13.110 align:middle line:84% RICKY CAMILLERI: --and you're not an innocent. 00:00:13.110 --> 00:00:13.950 align:middle line:84% So therefore-- MIRIAM SHOR: Yeah. 00:00:13.950 --> 00:00:16.073 align:middle line:84% RICKY CAMILLERI: --as much as a person would fight against that 00:00:16.073 --> 00:00:18.030 align:middle line:84% and be like, that's not true, that seeps in, 00:00:18.030 --> 00:00:22.650 align:middle line:84% and that then in turn creates a tragic amount, I think, 00:00:22.650 --> 00:00:25.830 align:middle line:84% of probably self-doubt and [? consciousness. ?] 00:00:25.830 --> 00:00:28.540 align:middle line:84% MIRIAM SHOR: Well, look, no parent is perfect. 00:00:28.540 --> 00:00:29.440 align:middle line:90% RICKY CAMILLERI: Of course. 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:30.780 align:middle line:84% MIRIAM SHOR: All parents have to make 00:00:30.780 --> 00:00:35.320 align:middle line:84% choices that are difficult, and these women were no exception. 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:36.840 align:middle line:84% They made some very difficult choices. 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:40.940 align:middle line:84% They had difficulties in their lives that were, you know, 00:00:40.940 --> 00:00:43.020 align:middle line:84% to some might even seem insurmountable, 00:00:43.020 --> 00:00:43.980 align:middle line:90% and yet they had to. 00:00:43.980 --> 00:00:45.720 align:middle line:84% They had-- their lives just had to continue. 00:00:45.720 --> 00:00:46.860 align:middle line:90% They had to go on. 00:00:46.860 --> 00:00:50.370 align:middle line:84% And the guilt that comes along with the choices 00:00:50.370 --> 00:00:52.440 align:middle line:84% that you make as a parent, as a mother, 00:00:52.440 --> 00:00:55.830 align:middle line:84% is ever present even if you are the perfect mother. 00:00:55.830 --> 00:00:58.470 align:middle line:84% So, you know, that line where she says, "I'm her mother. 00:00:58.470 --> 00:01:01.350 align:middle line:84% It's all on me," means I put it all on me. 00:01:01.350 --> 00:01:02.370 align:middle line:90% You put it all on me. 00:01:02.370 --> 00:01:05.580 align:middle line:84% Everybody puts it all on me, and I can't escape that. 00:01:05.580 --> 00:01:08.280 align:middle line:84% So she's-- you know, Mari Gilbert and the character I 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.430 align:middle line:84% play, Lorraine, and all of the women involved in this have 00:01:11.430 --> 00:01:13.800 align:middle line:84% to grapple with, sure, their own senses 00:01:13.800 --> 00:01:16.020 align:middle line:84% of guilt and how could I not have 00:01:16.020 --> 00:01:18.270 align:middle line:90% protected this person I love? 00:01:18.270 --> 00:01:21.240 align:middle line:84% But when you go to the authorities whose job is 00:01:21.240 --> 00:01:24.630 align:middle line:84% supposedly to protect and to serve 00:01:24.630 --> 00:01:29.010 align:middle line:84% and they shake off any obligation 00:01:29.010 --> 00:01:33.150 align:middle line:84% and treat you like you're less than a human, 00:01:33.150 --> 00:01:35.877 align:middle line:84% that's when you start to feel enraged 00:01:35.877 --> 00:01:37.110 align:middle line:84% when you read about it, which was how 00:01:37.110 --> 00:01:38.110 align:middle line:90% I felt when I read the script. 00:01:38.110 --> 00:01:39.620 align:middle line:84% And that's when someone like Mari Gilbert 00:01:39.620 --> 00:01:42.120 align:middle line:84% and like all these women who bonded together and refused 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:43.600 align:middle line:90% to be silenced-- 00:01:43.600 --> 00:01:46.230 align:middle line:84% you know, they really showed that you can 00:01:46.230 --> 00:01:48.640 align:middle line:90% be heard if you just persist. 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:51.120 align:middle line:84% And I'm glad I had some small part in sort 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:52.470 align:middle line:90% of bringing that to light. 00:01:52.470 --> 00:01:56.120 align:middle line:90% [MUSIC PLAYING] 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:59.000 align:middle line:90%